nned tips on jumping, im trying alot harder this season and need help with jumping, usually when i jump, i try to get as much speed coming up to the jump then let of the throttle before i take off, my question is this is slowing me down, a quad with no throttle going up a steep jump, ive never had the balls to keep the throttle on all the way over because ive always though that the front ends going to come up loads and im gunna come off the back

any tips?

sam

I know it sounds hard but What im trying to do as a noob is hold the throttle all the way up to the jump then let off, clutch, then hit the rear brake... Since It always dipped the nose, I started doing this off every jump and till now, it has worked...

i miantain a constent speed about 1/2 to 3/4 throttle then i gas it off the lip as i preload my suspension

thanks, so its not good to keep the throttle on untill you have taken off and are in the air?? sam

To start jumping, try a constant throttle position as you approach the jump face. You can then increase the throttle position if you feel the front end is too low, (ex. panic revving) or tap the back brake (which lowers the front end) if you feel you are "nose high".

If you get in the habit of chopping the throttle off the faces of jumps, you will find that you will land nose first off some of the steeper jumps, and that hurts. Body position, throttle position......little jumps lead to bigger jumps.

With practice, and proper landings, you can then experiment with accelerating through the face of the jumps, but that comes later, grasshoppa....

a quesion i got and may help him too....

how exactly do you preload? and are you still sitting on the seat when you leave the face of the jump?

ttt

thanks for the help. does any one throttle over jumps? im not sure if it would be safe

sam

You don't want to throttle "over" the jump..kinda draws attention to yourself and you'll look like a noob. Unless I'm not understanding what you mean by "throttling over the jumps".

Like others have said...I maintain my spped coming up to the jump and I blip the throttle on take off...this ensures the nose isn't down.

It really depends on the jump and the landing on how you approach it. If you jumping a double/triple and the landing is flat you want to land on the back wheels or on all fours and throttle out of it. If the jump landing is tapered down you want to be nose down a bit (as long as you clear it in the first place) and throttle it as you land.

But remember....the more time you're in the air the less you're on the ground where it counts. Corners are also very important more then jumps IMHO.

No advice on preload...I'm not there yet. But you kind of push down on the quad running up the face of a jump and let the suspension "spring" you over....it's really more practice then anything else on preloading.

Duane is very right. For preload you have to lower your body when you hit the face the jump which will caus your suspension to compress from your lowering body weight and force of the jump face, then as your going up the face pull up on the bars and try to take the weight off your feet. Remember to lean forward when you do it or you will go nose high.
You can see me do it in this video if you look closely at the take off. If you have any way to slow it doen you can see it better.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...VideoID=5441697


And the best way to learn jumping is keeping a constant throttle up to and on the launch of the jump. when you get comfortable, you can haull ass into the jump and let off at the face. The quad will fly different but its the fastest way to jump if your racing.
Also, on big jumps or jumps without a steep landing, its always easier on you to land rear tires before the fronts. Let the rear shock start to slow the quad down and the front will take the rest of the hit from landing.

cant see when you compress too much but i see what u mean after take off.....ill have to try it this weekend lol

I do 3/4 into i then pinn it pin the take off. I can change my position on the bike pretty well wheile its in the air so I don't worry about anything but hitting the landing right.

Notice how he did a great job of steadily applying the throttle right at the apex of the corner, keeping his momentum up, and that helped translate to the the distance needed to clear the triple. (No easy task on a Banshee, nonetheless). Great job, good video!!!

I going to get better footage of that tomorrow seeing how that's where we're going....I had too much camera shake that day.

what i ment by throttle over the jump was you keep the throttle on untill you have left the jump then let off again, this way it seems you are hitting the jump as fast as you can, surly if you let the throttle off before you take off then you are slowing down

sam

Zkid: what u had made mention on was i would call bump jumping sitting on the seat all the way up the face of the jump i think i have a dusky vid on my myspace page , and i think that i may have one of
doing it at mototown usa over a section. ill find it a post it up if i can or pm it to you


what not to do i can laugh about this now http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=...videoid=6287282

I diagree. Pre-loading the suspension off a jump and seat jumping (bouncing) are completely different. There are only certain situations when I would ever reccommend seat jumping, because it throws the trajectory of the quad WAY off in tha air. Its not safe to do it except on small jumps with steep landing faces. If you do it on a medium or large jump are are asking to land on the front bumper.
They both basically do the same thing, but when you leave a jump sitting down you are not in the position you need to be in on the quad to maneuver in the air and land.

I'm 100% with DDQ on this. Pre-loading isn't EVEN the same as seat hopping. Seat hopping is kind of like using the rear shock as a pogo stick. And if you don't know what you're doing, it's pretty easy to pile up. About the only time I EVER seat hop a jump is small, hard to clear jumps that are right out of a turn. When you do this, you compress the back shock so much that when it springs back and gives you that little "uummph" to get over a jump, the rear end is gonna come up pretty quick and you had better be ready for it.

keep the throttle on all the way up the face of the jump, and when in the air, you can reposition your body to keep the front end up or down, or you can use the gas and brake. Just make sure if your going to break tap it, you pull in the clutch =]

thanks, thats the answer i was looking for

sam

no problem dude

dude i jus wanted to say thats a PRIME example of the saying: when in in doubt, PIN IT!!!

go to the track find a simple single, and practice. what I did. first started dune jumping small stuff. then learned on single's at the track how to control front nose up and down, preloading etc. practice practice practice. I understand its scary holding the throttle going up to a jump. natural instinct says," hey dumbass, you shouldnt be humanly doning this." once you get past that, its like you knew what to do since the day you were born.

http://media.putfile.com/creamer-70


if u can see that vid what was creamer doing? DDQ what is that called?

thats called hauling ass and having very good rhythm! he is getting all his preload from the g forces in the bowls between jumps.

so its pre-loading, not seat jumping?

On which jump? I saw him scrubbing, pre-loading, and seat hopping. Which jump are you asking about?

seat hopping (seat bounce) is when you do not get off the seat over the face of the jump

preloading is when u load up your suspension ( put weight onto it/ compress the springs) and then when the springs decompress it gives u more air and just go higher

me personally i keep a constant throttle up the face if it is a small double or a step on step off jump then i let off at the top to get the smoothest landing possible other wise im all gas

im starting to get more into mx. ive never been to a track with real safe jumps, but ive hit smaller jumps that you dont really get anymore than 1-2ft of air. im not an expert jumper at all, so im really asking for advice too basically. i try to come to the jump as fast as it takes to reach the landing, and while i do that, i keep on the throttle until im pretty much at the end of the take off. then ill give it more gas, so when the front end leaves the take off before the rear end does, it will be even and not dip. i need to work on correcting myself in the air now with the back brake. since i usually land ass end first.

Is anyone else like me? I can hit just about any jump for the first time and make it perfect, idk, it's like a 6th sense with throttle control and systematic bike control. Guess I'm just lucky?

thats birch creek I raced there 2 weeks ago do you live around here?

sorry for going off topic

Alrite, this is for the guy who made the post......what i did to learn was build a 4 footer in the yard and just practice off that....i know it sounds retarded but it helped me.....i can hit 100 footers and kno that letting up the gas will probly throw me coming short and wrecking somehow!!

AND DO NOT PRACTICE THIS ON A FULL MX JUMP ( TRYED IT, DIDNT WORK OUT GOOD )