Hey guys, Right now I have a modded KFX, but I am considering getting either a LT-R450, or a Raptor 700. I love to wheely in 4 or 5 gear, how is the raptor with wheelies. How is the low end for like 2 and 3 gears?

Also what do you think I should get, ltr450, raptor 700, or yfz?
Thanks.

Cant really say much on the ltr 450 since it isn't out yet... Get a 400 ex if you like wheeling

cant say for sure(because nobody has the zuki) but I would be willing to bet that the raptor will probably be the better of the two for wheelies. Most quads set up for mx have just enough swing arm so they can launch hard without wheelying where as the rap is set up for general recreation.

Thanks

Deffinately the rap for wheelies. If not good enough stock, drop the front sprocket down one tooth and then that front end will come up so easily.

your buying a quad just so u can do wheelies? any of those quads will weelie just fine, my yfz comes up whenever i want it to, and i can ride a wheelie forever.....

NO, I'm not buying a quad just for wheelies! At the moment I have a KFX 400, and will be having to sell it to get some cash to move to Florida. So I plan on buying a new quad in the spring time, just doing some research. I'm not sure if I want a Raptor 700 (but I would have to get wider a-arms, and shocks), a YFZ 450, or a LTR450. With the LTR I wouldn't have to widen it, just add pipe and computer controler. I kinda want to start racing MX, but still want to trail ride and do some long distance wheelies. So the LTR is almost too wide.

i ride my yfz in the woods with no problem, and im at 48 or 49 '' wide in the front...i cant remeber exactly, but its wide.. you'll have no probelm with the yfz, if ur gonna be doing mx, i wouldnt get a raptor.....and the ltr is gonna be a first year bike with fuel injection so just be careful...

Actually on the raptor 700 it is just as wide as the yfz now as it has the same front end minuse the shocks.

i haVE LOWERED MINE 7 INCHES AND I CAN STAND IT UP LIKE EVIL KNEVAL!!
SICK BOY STYLE!!

O.K. thanks, so the Raptor is out of the question. The only reason why I'm leaning toward the LTR is because it is purely race ready. With the YFZ I would still need to add a-arms ect.

Sounds like you need a 450R (perferably 04' or 05' because the 06' they added 15mm's (about 1") to the swinger. Honda's are known for their light front ends.

I dont see anything wrong with buying a certain quad just to do wheelies with. Im thinking about getting a 400EX just to stunt in PK lots and occasional trail riding with. Im buying a CBR600 F4I just to stunt too. If thats what he finds fun then more power to him.

400ex is the best for wheelies but out of the two you said i would get the raptor

ya good for wheelies buy not for track the 700 not good for track eather but good ofr wheelies and trails your track quads at the yfz trx ltr

So what the topic is about wheelies not track

im just tellin the kid ok mother

But actually the KFX wheelies good already right?

yes, the KFX does.

400 ex is the best wheeler ever made

I had the '06 Raptor 700R and the best wheelies were in 1,2,3 but 4th & 5th are to big and you'll have to be going at least 50mph in 4th to raise the front end up...

My YFZ can do wheelies easier than the Raptor cuz of weight.

Florida has alot of tracks and some open riding areas here & there. But if your doing MX,TT or any racing that envolves cornering at high speeds that raptor is not the key quad for it...get a YFZ that's what I did.

nice answer man , u r right about that any bike can wheeli in the hands of some1 who knows how to ride !!!!

come on now know ur facts the raptor has the same a-arms at the yfz y would u buy new ones

if you know how to wheelie what the problem???? get the quad you like better

YFZ ALL THE WAY! best quad ive ever ridden, wheelies 1-4 gears no prob for me 5 is a lil harder but still can do it. get the yfz and you have a good wheelier and good track quad,
youll never regret it

high speed wheelies on the yfz are fricken awesome! Like "04blackyfz450" said, 1-4th is not a problem. 5th gear is possible with the right gearing and mods.
A few months back we had two yfz's standing up side by side on a highway in 5th gear with 15/38 gearing!!! We where flying!

700 is great at low speed wheelies. I havnt tried to much but seems like there is more effort needed in the higher gears. I have only been able to wheelie 3rd......BUT, havnt tried since doing my intake.

I think the best low speed wheelie machine had to be the 660, with its shorter swingarm, weight byas, and low end torque. Absolutely effortless 1st-3rd

If all you like to do is weelies then get a raptor 660.I heard that the front end on them is very light and some even complain about the front end coming up all the time when they hit the gas.The 700r was balanced out better than the 660 so it could rail turns at high speed and doesn't weelie much unless you want it to.I don't know about the ltr450,but i would guess from its totally made for mx desighn that its also ballanced well for turns and to keep the front down on the track as much as possable.I have no clue about the other quads.

.........You actually got your 700 to wheelie in 4th??? I tried a while ago, before doing my intake and couldnt get it to. Though, I also am running yfz front shocks which makes the front end sit down farther. I want to try now that I have the suspension dialed and the intake on.
Definately doesnt seem to be the high speed wheelie machine of my yfz.

I think its all to do with the weight and the lack of revs. You have plenty of power and torque.....just too much weight compared to the yfz.
I dont know......

my yfz picks up in 5th gear just as easy as 4th. but i also have 18 inch tires and stock gearing so it mad snapy. and the motor mods in my sig

135Boom you cant get your raptor to stand up in 4th? Mine will stand up quiete easily in 4th but you had to be going fairly quick to get it to come up. Like 2006YFZ450 said. As for 5th its dont like to come up. I can stand it up in 4th then shift to 5th but as for just standing it up in 5th it wont do it.

Jamie Mace

hmmmmm, I dont know what my problem is. Are you doing this on ashault?? In dirt I cant get it to stand up in 4th. 3rd is all she wrote. Where as my yfz will pick up in 4th NO prob in dirt, and 5th sometimes if you hit it just right! I have decided to do the 734 reguardless, if I am not happy with that much power I'll just go back to a yfz and mod it like I modded my last, except now I'll have a full 449........then again, kinda am curiuos what is in store for 2007!

..........not that this will help on the wheelies, but I think I am going to drop the rear sprocket down to a 36 to spread the power out a little more. Seems like I get all the power in a heart beat, then it falls flat on its face. Then again, I am coming off a machine that revved to 11,250rpm! I just think the gearing change would make it a little more brod, instead of one big burst that is gone as fast as it came!

If you gear it down in the back to a 36 tooth it will be really close to where mine is at with being geared up 1 tooth in the front. Personally i like it geared up 1 tooth better then a do stock because in drag races i can get off the line WAY faster with it geared up. It also will wheelie easier in gravel if it is geared up rather then just spinning all the time.

Jamie Mace

awe......good point. Maybe my old gearing of 15/38 on my yfz was actually helping out the high speed 4th and 5th gear wheelies! Never thought about that.
I may just try the 15T front sprocket on the 700. your pretty happy with that hah? Going with the 15 will drpo the ratio down a little more than the 36 rear. I was just going to do the 36 rear, cause I thought maybe the 15 up fornt was too much.
Did you notice that your powerband didnt run out so fast with the taller gearing? Seems like with the stock gearing on my machine right now that the power comes on as fast as it falls back off. I would rather that powerband be spread out a little more and would think taller gearing would help with that?

Yeah it does spread the powerband out a little so its more controlable. You wont notice any power loss like you might be thinking you will. In fact i dont think i lost any power at all because i can still get to top speed just as fast with it geared up a tooth except i am going about 4-6 mph faster in the same amount of time compared to the stock gearing. You wont be dissapointed gearing it up a tooth.

cool, I'll probably just try out the 15 tooth counter sprocket. Cheaper that way too, and easier to install in my opinion.
Thanks for the input!

Your welcome. Always glad to help someone out.

Jamie Mace

Why would you buy a new ATV just for 4'th and 5'th gear wheelies.. You should be looking for an ATV that is good in all styles of riding... Or at least the ones you enjoy most.. I would go with the LT over the 700.. But a YFZ over both

"raptor700ryder".......I can do 4th gera wheelies on my 700 now. The intake definately helped out. I have to punch it right in the mid range and she'll come right up! 5th gear is hopeless at this point!

Good job "135Boom" i knew your raptor was capable of doing it.

Ha that's funny!!!

a yfz is a great wheely machine, you can pick it up in 5th stock, but u need the technique, with just a pipe and jets, it'll pick up in 5th so easy

here's a vid of me, when the yfz was stock

wow, someone lives in the middle of no-where jk, nasty wheelie

i have owned a 660 raptor, 700r, and now i have a yfz 450. to me i was able to ride a wheelie alot easier on my 450 now than i could on the other 2 quads. on my 450 i have a slipon hmf sport pipe and everything eles is stock and i can wheelie in 1-4 very easy just by the crack of the throttle. in 5th gear it takes a little more experience but if you are used to the yfz it is really easy in 5th gear. if you know where the most power is but if you get it in the right RPM's which i think is around 6500-7000 rpm's it is really easy to pull it up in 5th gear. on my 660 i could get it up in 3rd but no matter what i did in 4th it would only come off about an inch. For the 700r i could get it up in 4th but it was really hard because the fuel injection. i think on the 700r that the fuel injection really holds it back. there was a study done by i guy that i know and he took the fuel injection off and put a 42mm carb on it and that thing really tore down the road. you can really tell it evened out the power through out the rpm's.

Sheesh, nice long wheelie there lol

Wow!!! Now that was impressive!!! You should never have to replace any front tires, bearings or suspension parts if you keep doing that.....

Ya, that was an insane wheelie